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Mr lproven, at this moment I regret upvoting your previous quite interesting reasonings about Lisps and software, because you so easily went into zealotry and ad personam, just because someone disagreed with you about a public transport.

Please, can you separate "religious " issues from the discussion if sofrware. Thank you.



:'(

Genuinely dismayed to hear that.

I put it to you that it's one of these things the depends entirely on your personal background, specifically including the country (or countries) that you grew up in.

I have been told, to my face, that it is absolutely impossible to live life in a modern American city using a bicycle as your only form of transport. (Let alone as a pedestrian!) This may be true; I don't know, I've never lived in America.

But as an adult, I've lived in London, Brno, and Prague, with bicycles as my only regular form of vehicle, used in combination with public transport, and it's been absolutely fine. Not even inconvenient, not tolerable, not bearable, but pleasant, easy, cheap, convenient, and fun.

I didn't get a car driver's license until I was 37 years old. I never needed one. (I did have a motorcycle license from the age of about 22.)

I have often faced out right incredulity when I told people this but it is not exaggeration.

Similarly, I have often been told that life as a vegetarian is inconceivable. People have cited a multitude of reasons, from lack of ingredients, the lack of culinary skills, the lack of availability of restaurants where they live, to simple inability to face the prospect of life without eating meat... but I've been a vegetarian for over 40 years now. It is not some miserable, puritan, ascetic life of self-denial. I've travelled to many dozens of countries, and never had a real problem, and I've never ever, not once, let it lapse for any reason, especially not because I was abroad. It doesn't mean austere self-denial. I love my food, as my waistline shows, unfortunately.

When I say that somebody's national background is probably a motivating factor in their lack of belief that, for example, designing entire nation states around public transport as the primary way of getting around, that is not an ad hominem attack. It is a plain and simple statement of fact.

Sometimes, people's lifestyles and background mean that they cannot imagine a life that is so radically different to their own… and that can mean even people that have travelled extensively in their own country. I don't think that it is rude to point that out.




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